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se pare ca toate criticile colectionarilor au ajuns cu varf si indesat la urechile AUTOart.

in stilul caracteristic, AUTOart au ales sa fenteze colectionarul si cu un comunicat bine pus la punct, in care ne invata despre machetele "bune" si machetele "proaste"; despre machetele AUTOart facute ca la carte, desi pline de plastic...

cititi si trageti concluziile, mie mi-e scarba...

Perception of quality - 4 Sep, 2009

There is a prevailing misconception amongst die-cast model collectors over the term "good quality".

From a model-maker's point of view, for a die-cast model to be deemed "good quality" it must satisfy the following basic requirements:

    * the model should replicate as closely as possible the true scale of the original;
    * the body should be painted evenly and in a consistent shade without ripples or an orange peel effect;
    * the doors, bonnet and trunk should close tightly with any surrounding gaps fine and even;
    * the plastic windscreen should be clear and without distortion;
    * the headlights should be fitted to the body of the model without the attachment pins being visible;
    * the chrome trim, bumpers and rocker panels should be aligned correctly.

Many collectors believe that a good quality model will inevitably be expensive and incorporate sophisticated features such as a movable gas filler cap, sun visor, glove box, roof top......etc.  In fact, a model may have a relatively simple specification and sell at a standard price but still be considered good quality as long as the above criteria have been met.

Obviously, a good quality model requires more manual labor during production than a standard quality model.  The cost of production is, therefore, higher.  One of the most challenging tasks for a model-maker is to achieve a high quality and consistent paint finish on the body and the panels.  Before proceeding, the entire body surface must be smoothed manually, area by area and panel by panel, so that the paint may be applied evenly and smoothly.  When parts of the model such as the pillars are produced to the true scale, the resulting structure will be quite slim and delicate.  Thus the trimming of the corners and edges must be done by careful manual filing.  Any air inlet or outlet on the die-cast body can only be manually trimmed in order to achieve a genuine aperture.  To have the doors and panels close perfectly with fine and even gaps requires weeks or even months of manual fine-tuning of the tooling.  There are no shortcuts when striving to achieve a quality finish.  No automated machine can replace trained human hands handling such delicate objects.

In order to enhance the quality, a model can be made with special intricate features provided that they look real, both in scale and texture.  Common practice is to use photo-etching on metal parts to produce components such as the radiator grill, air inlet wire mesh, brake-rotors, steering wheel spokes and various emblems.  The process allows the production of parts of minimal thickness with the texture and fine detail that closely resemble the real items.  Moreover, real leather can be trimmed to be so thin as to permit the incorporation in the model of upholstered seats and window curtains made of real fabric.  Using multi-link metal hinges can also simulate the actual movement of a real car bonnet.

There are, of course, technical constraints.  For example, when the real object is made of steel 1mm thick it will be almost impossible to replicate the same in a 1:18 scale model using metal that is 18 times thinner but still retaining its three-dimensional form.  There are many small features in a real car, such as wiper arms, nuts and bolts and some suspension parts, that look unreal and out of scale if they are replicated in metal.  Some makers use photo-etching on metal to simulate the wiper arm, which can be made very thin, but the result is just a flat piece of metal lacking the three-dimensional form.  Other makers use metal to replicate an articulated wiper arm but the resulting component often appears to be too thick and unrealistic.  These practices may be considered to be overplaying the role of special features in the development of die-cast models.  However, many collectors comment that a model bearing such features is of high quality and merits the high price demanded for it,  despite the lack of realism and adherence to the true scale.  In fact, there are high-priced models selling in the marketplace that bear intricate features on a body shell that is fundamentally out of shape and out of scale and body panels that do not meet closely and tightly.  Such models are of poor quality despite the price and features.

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* the model should replicate as closely as possible the true scale of the original;
    * the body should be painted evenly and in a consistent shade without ripples or an orange peel effect;
    * the doors, bonnet and trunk should close tightly with any surrounding gaps fine and even;
    * the plastic windscreen should be clear and without distortion;
    * the headlights should be fitted to the body of the model without the attachment pins being visible;
    * the chrome trim, bumpers and rocker panels should be aligned correctly.

Asta mi sa parut naspa rau...
Eu zic insa ca mai avea de raspuns,sau de explicat cateva intrebari (mie de exemplu nu imi place ca masinile noi AA nu mai au sasiu de metal ca un millenium mai vechi,de exemplu Corvette SS)
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daca traduceai ....filozof erai..
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Imi place ca face de kko pe Kyosho cu suspensia lor falsa. (exceptand cateva modele gen miura)
Explica foarte clar, macheta de calitate este cea lucrata manual adica tinuta mai multe ore in mana, nu cea care are mai multe moving parts.

Mai jos puteti citi si de ce s-au scumpit machetele, nu doar din cauza materialului ci si pt ca s-a scumpit munca in china.

http://www.aa-collection.com/article.web.ViewArticleDetails.do?articleId=6

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daca traduceai ....filozof erai..

e de bun simt sa stii nitica engleza in secolul XXI. exista google translate daca nu. vad ca Mihaita a bagat la capsor

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Imi place ca face de kko pe Kyosho cu suspensia lor falsa. (exceptand cateva modele gen miura)
Explica foarte clar, macheta de calitate este cea lucrata manual adica tinuta mai multe ore in mana, nu cea care are mai multe moving parts.

Mai jos puteti citi si de ce s-au scumpit machetele, nu doar din cauza materialului ci si pt ca s-a scumpit munca in china.

http://www.aa-collection.com/article.web.ViewArticleDetails.do?articleId=6


dupa tine, avocatul lor, AA face de kko pe toata lumea. eu cred ca se fac singuri de kko, au devenit penibili...

cu suspensia sunt de acord, dar nu e mare fita sa realizezi o suspensie detaliata si nefunctionala din plastic. pana si revell face asta. mie nu-mi pasa de suspensii oricum. era vorba de altceva....

stiu de ce zic ei ca au scumpit. de fapt sunt mai jidani de felul lor si vor sa jumuleasca si ultima pana de pe gaina. ceilalti producatori de ce n-au pus un asemenea comunicat? ei nu tot in china/thailanda/singapore/taiwan/miserupia produc?

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« Răspuns #6 : 09/14/09*, 15 »
Ce vorbesti... toata lumea a scumpit in ultimii 2 ani machetele.

Un solido costa cat un norev, un norev a ajunsa sa coste aproape cat un AA vechi, HG61 de la 60 a ajuns 80Euro, Kyosho scumpeste cate putin ca sa nu se simta brusc. Revell a ajuns sa le faca din plastic, iar ce e din metal aproape s-a dublat, (vezi opel Manta)

Altii nu mai scumpesc dar nici modele noi nu au mai scos, prefera sa le faca pe aceleasi in alte culori.

Macar AA vorbeste cu publicul si le explica de ce.


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« Răspuns #7 : 09/14/09*, 16 »
scumpirile nu sunt comparabile cu AUTOart. chiar si asa, macar unii ofera aceeasi calitate la un pret mai mare. nu porcarii de plastic pentru 20-30 de euro in plus

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« Răspuns #8 : 09/14/09*, 16 »
Credeam ca rezolvasem problema cu plasticul. AA nu foloseste plastic decat la spoilere si praguri. Asta pt ca AA face spoilerele si pragurile ca bucati separate, nu le toarna ca altii impreuna cu aripile.

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« Răspuns #9 : 09/14/09*, 16 »
si alti producatori fac chestia asta si nu iau "chelea" de pe om. singura metoda prin care iti pot inchide gura e sa vin cu exemple concrete, dar n-am timpul necesar sa fac o polologhie mare cu modele de la mai multi producatori....

ar fi bine ca AA sa se apuce de kituri de plastic

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« Răspuns #10 : 09/14/09*, 16 »
pt fiecare exemplu , eu o sa vin cu un contraexemplu de la acelasi producator. Degeaba imi arati un HG61 cu sasiu de metal daca nu le fac pe toate asa.



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nu e neaparat vorba de asta. degeaba imi pune balamale super smechere la capota daca fac caroserii strambe, scaune din plastic ordinar si alte alea

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« Răspuns #12 : 09/14/09*, 17 »
Ma asteptam la o discutie mai constructiva aici. Eu "colectionarul de rand" (care oricum isi ia ce-i place la urma urmei), ma uit la pozele machetelor sa vad detaliile, rareori citesc texte de pe siteurile producatorilor. Citind totusi ce au scris AutoArt pe site-ul lor, nu mi se pare deloc deplasat, mai ales ca e ceva general valabil. Cat despre preturile machetelor... daca intr-adevar ravnesti la o macheta, atunci esti in stare sa scoti mai mult din buzunar. Daca nu-ti permiti, poate gasesti la alt producator mai ieftin, sau gasesti o ocazie. Daca nici asa nu reusesti, atunci asta e!

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« Răspuns #13 : 09/14/09*, 18 »
eu urasc multumirea de care vorbesti tu, in care trebuie sa inghitim toate gunoaiele... inseamna ca tu nu ai cumparat jafuri autoart cu preturi de peste 70 de euro...

acolo unde pica la ocazie nu ma plang, cum ii spuneam si lui vlad, daca scoate anumite modele autoart cu 60 de euro le cumpar pe loc. N-am sa dau veci pretul intreg pe Lamborghini Espada, desi mi-l doresc. asta pentru ca e plin de plastic si scartaie ca o jucarie romaneasca.

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« Răspuns #14 : 09/14/09*, 18 »
si eu sunt de acel principiu......putin ma intereseaza ca unele parti sunt din plastic, cat timp sunt cat mai fidele realitatii. oricum, AA nu va scadea la nivelul lui Solido, de exemplu. Intr-adevar, ma supar cand preturile cresc.